An important question
Feb. 9th, 2017 01:47 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
wingedbeast(Note: This is a question I've asked of those who identify as pro-life and, only recently, gotten a real answer (as in one that actually answers the question rather than attempts to avoid answering the question with any clarity). Someone wanted this in convenient blog-post form, so here goes.)
I will ask this question of pro-lifers again. (Perhaps this not being the best place to ask.)
If you could stop more abortions than you could have any chance of accomplishing through criminalization, but it would require that you never again try to deny a woman the option to abort and never again deny the legitimacy of the choice to abort. You could never again say "she shouldn't have had sex" and never again call the reasons selfish.
Each time someone tells you they had an abortion and shows a desire to tell you the reason, you have to listen to that reason, accept it as valid and respect it, whether you initially understand or not.
Would you make that choice?
Because, from what I can tell, that is, indeed the choice you have. By nation or by grouping, we find that the rates of abortion aren't related to when abortions are criminalized, but to, I know you hate this, socialism. Strong social safety net and wellfare, assistance in raising children, etc. If you listen, you can find the reasons that you can address.
Question comes, would you make that choice?
(Additional note: People who share my pro-choice position have repeated the notes on encouraging contraception. But, I find that provides too easy a point of distraction. The pro-life movement is, more and more, taking the notion that forms of contraception (the pill, Plan B, IUDs, for example) are abortions (they're not, but that doesn't make this any less of a point where they can make a distraction from the question). So, they can easily pull the conversation in that way. So, I ask this in this method to focus the conversation.)
If you want to repost this question, please do. I'd like to see the responses and the conversations.
I will ask this question of pro-lifers again. (Perhaps this not being the best place to ask.)
If you could stop more abortions than you could have any chance of accomplishing through criminalization, but it would require that you never again try to deny a woman the option to abort and never again deny the legitimacy of the choice to abort. You could never again say "she shouldn't have had sex" and never again call the reasons selfish.
Each time someone tells you they had an abortion and shows a desire to tell you the reason, you have to listen to that reason, accept it as valid and respect it, whether you initially understand or not.
Would you make that choice?
Because, from what I can tell, that is, indeed the choice you have. By nation or by grouping, we find that the rates of abortion aren't related to when abortions are criminalized, but to, I know you hate this, socialism. Strong social safety net and wellfare, assistance in raising children, etc. If you listen, you can find the reasons that you can address.
Question comes, would you make that choice?
(Additional note: People who share my pro-choice position have repeated the notes on encouraging contraception. But, I find that provides too easy a point of distraction. The pro-life movement is, more and more, taking the notion that forms of contraception (the pill, Plan B, IUDs, for example) are abortions (they're not, but that doesn't make this any less of a point where they can make a distraction from the question). So, they can easily pull the conversation in that way. So, I ask this in this method to focus the conversation.)
If you want to repost this question, please do. I'd like to see the responses and the conversations.
My View on the Matter
Date: 2017-04-24 11:49 am (UTC)I'm not Christian now and consequently am pro-abortion now but that's at least self-consistent.