Black Hate Brigade: Episode 43
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wingedbeastSetting: Down a road from the Multiverse Multiport... or up a road. North by south of the Mulitverse Multiport, and a little of an unspecified verticle direction stands The Total Theatre. The Total Theatre is large, boasting many movie theatres in which one can watch a variety of movies, particularly the movies referenced in fictions but that never make it into that semi-mythical land known as reality.
Camera pans slowly over various doors to theatres, signs displaying different movies.
From a theatre boasting a showing of Groundhog Day 12 stream five boys and a young girl, all minded by an older gentleman they, seemingly without disrespect, refer to as "Scary German Guy".
The next movie theater is about to show a film version of Bloodaxe and Ironhammer. On the way to, a man in somewhat shabby breastplate and helmet says to his well-dressed wife: I get that it's a romantic epic but...
Sybil: They're both dwarves, dear.
Camera continues to pan past the ticket counter.
Jack Slater: No, really, Stalone is great in it.
Camera finally pulls back to focus on two young men, each in their late teens. One with black hair, green eyes, and Mediterranean complexion. The other is fairer, blond with blue eyes, and wearing a noticable amount of green.
Percy Jackson: I don't have good luck with movies.
Magnus Chase: Let's just choose. If we choose a bad one, we're only out a few bucks.
Percy Jackson: You don't understand. You haven't been adapted for film.
A figure looking like Tom Hiddleston in a green suit leans down to poke his head between the two.: It didn't go all that great for me, either.
Both the teens react instantly. Magnus drives his fist into the man, shoving him back and creating distance between. Percy pulls out a pen, removing the cap, causing it to turn into a deadly sword.
Loki: No need for any of that, boys. I'm from a completely different canon. I'm not even really a deity.
Both the teens stay ready. Magnus reaches for a pendant on his necklace, one shaped like a norse rune resembling an F.
Loki: Oh, no need for that. What do you expect me to do here? Oh, whatever. I hearby swear, by whatever narrative convenience is available, that I will not, during this particular meeting, steal from you or attempt to do you harm, harm including but not limited to killing, causing injury, or harmful deception.
Magnus relaxes a bit: Any deception.
Loki rolls his eyes: Okay, any deceiption.
Percy puts the cap back on the sword, turning it back into a pen.
Loki: You know, I always wondered how that worked, visually speaking. I don't think I could describe it if asked, but it makes perfect sense.
Percy shrugs: I don't know what people are so confused about.
Loki waves that topic away: Sharing movie woes, though. Moved from someone with a vision for the world and... okay, perhaps not a moral way to get there... to daddy issues being the end-all and be-all of my motivations.
Loki: I imagine Luke has similar woes.
Percy: It is a sticking point. I don't talk much with Hades, but... listen, none of us are happy with either of the Percy Jackson movies.
Loki: And, with the books becoming such a frustration. *gives a pointed look at Magnus*
Magnus: Okay, I know that look. The Loki from my canon has nothing to do with you.
Loki: I wouldn't say nothing. Different canons, but based on the same mythology. That makes him something of a brother to me and, well, I always have mixed feelings about my siblings.
Magnus: Feel free to have mixed feelings. I'm not entirely happy with my dad being a mostly-absent season. My Loki's still doing evil.
Percy: You still included me. What's wrong with my books? The titans and the giants were both treated accurately.
Loki: First of all, Mr. Chase. *leans in to get in Magnus's face* Loki is not evil. Any story that makes him evil is wrong. His greatest act, the one that you fear, is justice.
Magnus: He wants to do Ragnarok and kill everybody but, like, two people. How is that not evil?
Loki: Do you know what Ragnarok is?* "Ragna" means "ruler" as well as "god", and other words for "god" existed. "Rok" means fate. The fates of the powerful who break their oathes and kill the innocent in order to bind their father with the entrails. The consequences of what happens when even the most powerful are pieces of-
Magnus: Hey! Young adult language, only, here.
Loki: Are selfish and cruel and cowardly and treat those, over whom they have power, poorly... I swear this is PG culture gone mad.
Percy: You know, I get sick of hearing about PG culture this and PG culture that.
Loki: The point remains that Loki is not evil. Rather he is doing what it takes to make sure that those in power can't do whatever they want for their own selfish ends without suffering consequences. The alternative is... what, exactly? Odin gets to constantly prioritize himself over anything and everything and it's the job of everybody else to just take whatever cruelty, violence, or suffering that happens to involve?
Magnus: You know what? I might be all for that kind of idea if, and this is important here, Ragnarok didn't mean everybody but two humans dying... oh and there's the bit about him trying to my two friends, who happen to be his daughters.
Loki: For what reason? What possible reason could he have? And, the reason in your first book of "it's in my nature" doesn't work for me. That's nothing more than saying that that's how he's written by other people.
Magnus: It doesn't matter why he did it. It's on the page, he did it.
Loki: It's on the page, your two friends think he did it.
Magnus: Even if I give you that, still the whole "everybody but two people die" thing. It's classic Norse Mythology angle, can't be won but can be delayed. And, every day it's delayed is a day that people get to live.
Loki: Baldr gets to live. Baldr didn't torture people and didn't have anybody take revenge upon. Why not lead by that example? Deny Odin the army he needs and deny Loki the need for an army.
Magnus: We can't trust him not to take an army anyway and it's not like he trusts us to, no matter how much justification he has.
Loki: But, you're considering that he might have good justification.
Magnus: Not really. I'm just giving you this so we can finish the conversation.
Loki: Even that's something. Open the mind, man. On that topic, Percy, can I ask you a question?
Percy sighs: Okay, but make it quick, we'll be late to our movie.
Loki: You haven't chosen a movie, yet.
Percy: I choose one that's soon so you have to be quick.
Loki: Fine. I get that, in your canon, the Titans and the Giants would, either, have destroyed humanity if they replaced the gods. But, what would your position be if the replacements of the gods didn't want to destroy or subjugate humanity?
*All credit for the author knowing this goes here --> http://stealingcommas.blogspot.com/2016/09/what-ragnarok-means.html
Camera pans slowly over various doors to theatres, signs displaying different movies.
From a theatre boasting a showing of Groundhog Day 12 stream five boys and a young girl, all minded by an older gentleman they, seemingly without disrespect, refer to as "Scary German Guy".
The next movie theater is about to show a film version of Bloodaxe and Ironhammer. On the way to, a man in somewhat shabby breastplate and helmet says to his well-dressed wife: I get that it's a romantic epic but...
Sybil: They're both dwarves, dear.
Camera continues to pan past the ticket counter.
Jack Slater: No, really, Stalone is great in it.
Camera finally pulls back to focus on two young men, each in their late teens. One with black hair, green eyes, and Mediterranean complexion. The other is fairer, blond with blue eyes, and wearing a noticable amount of green.
Percy Jackson: I don't have good luck with movies.
Magnus Chase: Let's just choose. If we choose a bad one, we're only out a few bucks.
Percy Jackson: You don't understand. You haven't been adapted for film.
A figure looking like Tom Hiddleston in a green suit leans down to poke his head between the two.: It didn't go all that great for me, either.
Both the teens react instantly. Magnus drives his fist into the man, shoving him back and creating distance between. Percy pulls out a pen, removing the cap, causing it to turn into a deadly sword.
Loki: No need for any of that, boys. I'm from a completely different canon. I'm not even really a deity.
Both the teens stay ready. Magnus reaches for a pendant on his necklace, one shaped like a norse rune resembling an F.
Loki: Oh, no need for that. What do you expect me to do here? Oh, whatever. I hearby swear, by whatever narrative convenience is available, that I will not, during this particular meeting, steal from you or attempt to do you harm, harm including but not limited to killing, causing injury, or harmful deception.
Magnus relaxes a bit: Any deception.
Loki rolls his eyes: Okay, any deceiption.
Percy puts the cap back on the sword, turning it back into a pen.
Loki: You know, I always wondered how that worked, visually speaking. I don't think I could describe it if asked, but it makes perfect sense.
Percy shrugs: I don't know what people are so confused about.
Loki waves that topic away: Sharing movie woes, though. Moved from someone with a vision for the world and... okay, perhaps not a moral way to get there... to daddy issues being the end-all and be-all of my motivations.
Loki: I imagine Luke has similar woes.
Percy: It is a sticking point. I don't talk much with Hades, but... listen, none of us are happy with either of the Percy Jackson movies.
Loki: And, with the books becoming such a frustration. *gives a pointed look at Magnus*
Magnus: Okay, I know that look. The Loki from my canon has nothing to do with you.
Loki: I wouldn't say nothing. Different canons, but based on the same mythology. That makes him something of a brother to me and, well, I always have mixed feelings about my siblings.
Magnus: Feel free to have mixed feelings. I'm not entirely happy with my dad being a mostly-absent season. My Loki's still doing evil.
Percy: You still included me. What's wrong with my books? The titans and the giants were both treated accurately.
Loki: First of all, Mr. Chase. *leans in to get in Magnus's face* Loki is not evil. Any story that makes him evil is wrong. His greatest act, the one that you fear, is justice.
Magnus: He wants to do Ragnarok and kill everybody but, like, two people. How is that not evil?
Loki: Do you know what Ragnarok is?* "Ragna" means "ruler" as well as "god", and other words for "god" existed. "Rok" means fate. The fates of the powerful who break their oathes and kill the innocent in order to bind their father with the entrails. The consequences of what happens when even the most powerful are pieces of-
Magnus: Hey! Young adult language, only, here.
Loki: Are selfish and cruel and cowardly and treat those, over whom they have power, poorly... I swear this is PG culture gone mad.
Percy: You know, I get sick of hearing about PG culture this and PG culture that.
Loki: The point remains that Loki is not evil. Rather he is doing what it takes to make sure that those in power can't do whatever they want for their own selfish ends without suffering consequences. The alternative is... what, exactly? Odin gets to constantly prioritize himself over anything and everything and it's the job of everybody else to just take whatever cruelty, violence, or suffering that happens to involve?
Magnus: You know what? I might be all for that kind of idea if, and this is important here, Ragnarok didn't mean everybody but two humans dying... oh and there's the bit about him trying to my two friends, who happen to be his daughters.
Loki: For what reason? What possible reason could he have? And, the reason in your first book of "it's in my nature" doesn't work for me. That's nothing more than saying that that's how he's written by other people.
Magnus: It doesn't matter why he did it. It's on the page, he did it.
Loki: It's on the page, your two friends think he did it.
Magnus: Even if I give you that, still the whole "everybody but two people die" thing. It's classic Norse Mythology angle, can't be won but can be delayed. And, every day it's delayed is a day that people get to live.
Loki: Baldr gets to live. Baldr didn't torture people and didn't have anybody take revenge upon. Why not lead by that example? Deny Odin the army he needs and deny Loki the need for an army.
Magnus: We can't trust him not to take an army anyway and it's not like he trusts us to, no matter how much justification he has.
Loki: But, you're considering that he might have good justification.
Magnus: Not really. I'm just giving you this so we can finish the conversation.
Loki: Even that's something. Open the mind, man. On that topic, Percy, can I ask you a question?
Percy sighs: Okay, but make it quick, we'll be late to our movie.
Loki: You haven't chosen a movie, yet.
Percy: I choose one that's soon so you have to be quick.
Loki: Fine. I get that, in your canon, the Titans and the Giants would, either, have destroyed humanity if they replaced the gods. But, what would your position be if the replacements of the gods didn't want to destroy or subjugate humanity?
*All credit for the author knowing this goes here --> http://stealingcommas.blogspot.com/2016/09/what-ragnarok-means.html
